A look into the NAR and what influences it. Part1

Hello there my friends,

Welcome to Take me to Eternity. We live in a world that battles between flesh and spirit and I want to help you to be encouraged to live blessed in this fallen world.

Hopefully I can help you see some of the pitfalls out there and encourage you in how to navigate them.

Some of you know my testimony of why I speak out on the things that I do. I really got tripped up by the N.A.R teachings and false teachers in general in the beginning of my serious walk with the Lord. If you would rather watch my podcast episode I put a link at the bottom of the page.

I am blessed that I am in a church with a good pastor who teaches to look everything up and that context matters, Because with that the Holy Spirit worked, bringing to view how wrong the people I was listening to spoke about the word of God. And well…. truth matters.

Ben Witherington III said that “text without context is just a pretext for a proof text.” 😜 Say that ten times fast. 

When we read the word and study it we want to see what God said, why he said it and adapt our thoughts and beliefs according to him and not take our preconceived ideas and search for scripture that we might adapt to prove it. Unfortunately that isn’t how everyone approaches scripture whether it is purposeful or not it is dangerous. 

This is going to be the first of two posts. On today’s post I am going to be talking about the NAR or the New apostolic Reformation, and laying a foundation for what they teach. But there will be more in post two.

I have to say some blog posts are a pleasure to research, I am completely encouraged and get to learn great things about God’s word that I can’t say I would typically just learn without the deep dive. This blog post however was different. Though is has been one in the making for quite awhile. This was a hard one to research, because it goes so far outside of scripture and well it was hard to write for the same reason. I have many loved ones who are caught up in this group. I do this because truth matters especially when it pertains to the word of God. It is hard to see such deviation from scripture and know people who are caught up in the lies that are being taught.

Though most of this wasn’t new to me it is always hard to listen to and research false teachings. I pray that God opens their eyes and ears so that they might turn from the falsities they are believing and deceiving others with.

Though most of this wasn’t new to me it is always hard to listen to and research false teachings. I pray that God opens their eyes and ears so that they might turn from the falsities they are believing and deceiving others with.

Though most of this wasn’t new to me it is always hard to listen to and research false teachings. I pray that God opens their eyes and ears so that they might turn from the falsities they are believing and deceiving others with.

Though most of this wasn’t new to me it is always hard to listen to and research false teachings. I pray that God opens their eyes and ears so that they might turn from the falsities they are believing and deceiving others with.

Though most of this wasn’t new to me it is always hard to listen to and research false teachings. I pray that God opens their eyes and ears so that they might turn from the falsities they are believing and deceiving others with.

This isn’t a new denomination that you can look at and lump all in one. This isn’t a broad brush kind of thing. People who adhere to the criteria that make you part of this movement don’t all say they are a part of it but that doesn’t mean they aren’t. Just because they don’t call themselves something doesn’t mean they don’t believe these things.

I have heard Bill Johnson laugh about the NAR and say he doesn’t believe there is such a thing when in reality he has written the foreword to and endorsed books on the topic of the New Apostolic Reformation. He looks up to and endorses the person who coined the term and knows full well what it is referring to.

There are going to be things that I talk about that a lot of people are going to laugh off and think they are being exaggerated or that people wouldn’t actually believe them. Or that they are just on the fringe. Unfortunately people are getting led astray by these very teachings in droves. Biblically sound churches are being led astray. Well known pastors are falling for the deception. This is being promoted by big name organizations that otherwise look legit.

Part of the reason they are able to deceive so easily is that their definitions of words are different than orthodox Christian definitions. They tend to use the same words with very different meanings.

I have to start by saying how deeply these teachings have saddened me. How much my heart aches for those who are in this movement and how much I pray that the veil gets pulled from their eyes. That they may see the truth and know him. I pray for all of the people that are caught up in this.

I do believe that truth matters and that we ought to call out false teachers to mark and avoid them. To say someone is a false teacher isn’t to say that I know if they are saved. It is just to say that they are teaching falsely about the word of God. These people’s ministries are very public and being public, influence a ton of people. So we must speak against the falsities they are teaching or have taught so that hopefully others might not get caught in the snare.

Our baseline for understanding God is found in scripture and scripture is the plum line or calibrating tool that helps us to not vear from truth. With it we hear the very voice of God and the Holy Spirit shapes us and grows us with it. We are taught by it, convicted with it, shaped and formed to be the people who God wants us to be with the living and active word of God. When we go beyond scripture into feelings and experience and we place that as more reliable we are getting into some dangerous territory. 

So we have the prophetic word made more sure, to which you do well to pay attention as to a lamp shining in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star arises in your hearts. 2 Peter 1:19

We are to pay attention to scripture as to a lamp shining in a dark place. It illuminates our path and shows us how to not stumble and fall over the things in our way. When I call these people out I am calling out their teaching as I line it up next to scripture. This is done so very prayerfully and with a great weight on me. I am not condemning them, I am simply knocking down false teachings brought up against the knowledge of Christ. There is also an urgent need to warn people because it is really easy to get caught up when you don’t see the connections or understand that they aren’t saying the same thing you think they are. 

I have heard we shouldn’t use the term NAR because people don’t use it themselves but in reality a lot of them do. They came up with this term in their own group by a man named C. Peter Wagner and it is simply a term that says the main thrust of the movement.

It’s funny to me to see the ones who refuse to use it yet the people who they are leading agree that that is what they are a part of.

For those of you who don’t know what the NAR is…

The New Apostolic Reformation (NAR) is a movement which seeks to establish a fifth branch within Christendom distinct from Catholicism, Protestantism, Oriental Orthodoxy, and Eastern Orthodoxy. It advocates for the restoration of the offices of prophet and apostle.

One of my greatest concerns is the fact that they are trying to re-establish the office of Apostles and prophets as people who can bring in new revelations from God. This makes things hard because they in the end make themselves unquestionable by saying that God told them that they had encounters, and visions. When I say apostle I am not talking little a apostle one which is sent out but a big a apostle as in on par with the twelve, an Apostle of Jesus Christ.

“Therefore it is necessary that of the men who have accompanied us all the time that the Lord Jesus went in and out among us— beginning with the baptism of John until the day that He was taken up from us—one of these must become a witness with us of His resurrection.””
Acts 1:21-22

This is the criteria for picking a new apostle after Judas Iscariot killed himself at least part of it. The last time I checked no one is old enough to fulfill those standards so this in itself is a disqualification.

The NAR believe they need to take dominion of the world. Or political, and cultural control of the nations of the earth. What they are doing is trying to establish Jesus’ kingdom on earth. 

They believe that God has restored the office of prophets and apostles over the last thirty or fourty years and only now, as the church is “properly guided” by the “appropriate spiritual leaders”, can it fulfill its commission. That means for the majority of church history they don’t believe we have had the proper structure for church growth, leadership and health.

They believe the office of apostle is one which is the highest of all spiritual leaders and must be treated as such. They have full control over their areas and churches. They believe they are specially empowered by God to bring in new revelations and that because of that everyone else is to submit to their leadership. They are what was warned of in 2 Corinthians 11

“But I am afraid that, as the serpent deceived Eve by his craftiness, your minds will be led astray from the simplicity and purity of devotion to Christ. For if one comes and preaches another Jesus whom we have not preached, or you receive a different spirit which you have not received, or a different gospel which you have not accepted, you bear this beautifully.”
‭‭2 Corinthians‬ ‭11:3-4‬ ‭

The movement as a whole is largely I would say, obsessed with the moving of the Holy Spirit, signs and wonders, healing, demons, new revelations, revivals, visions, the prophetic, a twisted form of spiritual warfare and a whole lot more. They say that we are to do greater miracles than Jesus did which is interesting because that isn’t what that text says.

“Truly, truly, I say to you, he who believes in Me, the works that I do, he will do also; and greater works than these he will do; because I go to the Father.”
‭‭John‬ ‭14:12‬ ‭

It says works, not miracles. Boy have we accomplished a wider ministry and longer than he did. When you see them do the miracles they claim, either nothing happens or it is obviously for show. Leg lengthenings, false demonic deliverances, the dead not being raised when they are saying they will. It is really sad and people get told it’s their own lack of faith as to why they aren’t getting helped or delivered. I wonder how many people have lost their lives for fear of not having enough faith and not getting medical help.

Not to say God can’t and doesn’t work through these people at all but he worked through pharoah and people who were hugely against him before. I am not sure why he couldn’t now also.

Bill Johnson of Bethel Redding says “I refuse to create a theology that allows sickness” that is disturbing to me because he doesn’t get to create any theology. Creating one’s own theology makes one a false teacher. God’s word shows that sickness is real and that not everyone is healed from their sickness; it even shows that God gives sickness in some cases yet they teach that God can’t give what he doesn’t have and say Satan is always the cause of sickness. I wonder, what about sin? Sin can cause sickness. You can’t always say Satan made me do it. He isn’t omnipotent, omniscient, or omnipresent. They put such emphasis on signs and wonders yet neglect the word as being wholly sufficient. And it shows in their theology.

They teach in such a way that says that experience has a higher authority than scripture. I have heard some say that scripture has the highest authority yet that isn’t what they show when they preach and teach. When you watch them speak at different places you can see that they speak out of both sides of their mouths speaking one thing and then teaching the opposite. It really depends on who their audience is. Many of them (not all) know the truth and can tell you what the Bible says on things but then they contradict it while teaching about that very thing. 

It is interesting to me the amount of emphasis they put on the Holy Spirit because the Holy Spirit is alway meant to point to Jesus. And so many times they say they won’t mention his name because “it may turn people away.” In the same instance they say they brought someone into an encounter with Jesus. How do you do that while at the same time not professing Jesus?

We were never told to pray to the Holy Spirit nor was there any model of that in scripture yet you hear them speak about what they call “Holy Spirit” more than anything else. They call on “Holy Spirit” they say come fill this place and ask for more over and over again. How much striving they do, that is so contrary to scripture. It’s as if they are never filled. Always searching. They never have enough and they are always pushing for their next experiential fix.

If our focus is based on The Holy Spirit more than Jesus then we are focusing in the wrong direction. He also is God but in the Bible it shows us that Christ is the head of the church. He is the one we should be pointing people to. It’s about submission to him and trust in the saving work that he did on the cross for our sins, not about power and what we can get. 

I believe that is part of why being “drunk in the spirit” is so accepted and pushed in this group. They are seeking a high that seems to me can only be labeled demonic. We see them not able to stand or talk. Laughing hysterically as they roll on the ground. Sometimes they bark like dogs or cluck like chickens and they speak of being shocked or electrocuted. It looks more like the Hindu kundalini experience than it does any biblical example. It is sad and it is wrong. We look at what the Bible shows us and they look more like someone who is demonized than the self control of the fruit of the spirit of God.

“Now the practices of the sinful nature are clearly evident: they are sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality (total irresponsibility, lack of self-control), idolatry, sorcery, hostility, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, disputes, dissensions, factions [that promote heresies], envy, drunkenness, riotous behavior, and other things like these. I warn you beforehand, just as I did previously, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.” ‭‭Galatians‬ ‭5:19-21‬ ‭AMP‬‬

It is important to look what it will look like if we are walking in the flesh or in the spirit. What does it look like when we are living according to each. It says the fruit of the spirit is.

“But the fruit of the Spirit [the result of His presence within us] is love [unselfish concern for others], joy, [inner] peace, patience [not the ability to wait, but how we act while waiting], kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control. Against such things there is no law. And those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the sinful nature together with its passions and appetites.” Galatians‬ ‭5:22-24‬ ‭AMP‬‬.

When I see this I see one striving after the lusts of the flesh. Adding what YOU need to do onto what JESUS DID. It is making law out of man’s fleshly pride. When you say this is what a christian looks like to a new believer or unbeliever and you tell them they must be doing these things, healing, prophesy, speaking in tongues, holy laughter, and the like, you are adding onto and changing the gospel. These things were never normative.

We also know that not all are prophets nor are all healers nor do all speak in tongues as 1 Corinthians 12 says. The idea that this is how every believer should be is debunked pretty quickly if we hold to scripture. 

In this movement we see people speaking so frequently of being baptized in the spirit as a second baptism yet the Bible says there is one baptism and every believer has the Holy Spirit as a seal, a promise of our salvation. 

When you see their “fire tunnels” it is chaotic, out of control and looks nothing like the examples we are to exemplify in scripture. We are told God is a God of peace and order. Not chaos. 

Though there isn’t any set of guidelines as to doctrine it gets a bit squirrely trying to pin down beliefs with a wide brush. I have learned that as a majority they tend to talk out of both sides of their mouths. Both saying scripture rules and then saying but experience tells us differently. They add to doctrine with their “new revelations” much like other cults do. 

The NAR pushes “The Seven Mountain Mandate.”

Those who follow The Seven Mountain Mandate believe that, in order for Christ to return to earth, the church must take control of the seven major spheres of influence in society for the glory of Christ. Once the world has been made subject to the kingdom of God, Jesus will return and rule the world.

But this isn’t what scripture tells us. It isn’t up to us to usher in God’s kingdom. Jesus will return when the time is right. When he is ready and not when we have done enough. This becomes a work based agenda. I have to do enough or God won’t be able to come back. That is a heavy burden to put on people. And where is God’s sovereignty in all of it?

Unfortunately they really believe (at least a large portion of them) that they have to allow God to work. They say that Satan has the rule of the Earth and God can’t work until we humans allow him. Like God is so little and Satan so big that he needs us puny little humans, that he created by the way, to allow him to work in the world he created. Cause satan, who is another created being, that GOD himself created won’t allow him to work in his creation.

I have a really hard time when I hear people raise up Satan and lower God. I hear this time and time again by big name teachers and it is sick, it’s perverted and it’s blasphemous.

We know though that God is completely sovereign. Just look at the end of Job. I always see the snark in the last chapters. God reminding Job that he is the most powerful and that Job is a puny little human that God made. It kind of reminds us of our place.

Here are the seven mountains, according to the seven mountain mandate:

1) Education

2) Religion

3) Family

4) Business

5) Government/Military

6) Arts/Entertainment

7) Media

These seven sectors of society are thought to mold the way everyone thinks and behaves. So, to tackle societal change, these seven “mountains” must be transformed. The mountains are also referred to as “pillars,” “shapers,” “molders,” and “spheres.” Those who follow the seven mountain mandate speak of “occupying” the mountains, “invading” the culture, and “transforming” society.

The seven mountain mandate has its roots in dominion theology, which started in the early 1970s with a goal of “taking dominion” of the earth, twisting Genesis 1:28 to include a mandate for Christians to control civil affairs and all other aspects of society. The New Apostolic Reformation, with its self-appointed prophets and apostles, has also influenced the seven mountain movement, lending dreams and visions and other extra-biblical revelations to the mandate.

Not all who talk about the seven mountains or spheres are equal. There are different beliefs that change whether it is a biblical idea or not. You can loosely tell with the added mandate part. 

The seven mountain mandate says that it is the duty of all Christians to create a worldwide kingdom for the glory of Christ. The principal goal of dominion theology and the seven mountain mandate is political and religious domination of the world through the implementation of the moral laws—and subsequent punishments—of the Old Testament. That should give you pause. They are talking about an authoritarian ruling with old testament laws and punishments. 

There was a quote from Bill Hammond who is one of the old timers. He says he has been a prophet for 60 years. He has a ministry called Global ministries and their purpose statement said “ our purpose also is to help bring the Church to full restoration of all things spoken by the prophets SO THAT CHRIST JESUS CAN BE RELEASED FROM HEAVEN to return and establish his kingdom and Lordship over all the earth.

Did you catch that? So that Christ Jesus can be released from heaven…..

That is not something that is modeled in scripture for us. They aren’t talking about making disciples, they are talking about total domination. And they are saying that we need to do so in order for Jesus to come back. That is a crazy statement. God will Send Jesus when he is ready; it doesn’t have to do with what we do or don’t do. He is God and he will accomplish his will. This leaves no room for people and their free will. Nor does it speak to God’s complete sovereignty.

It is actually a pretty scary set of beliefs because in effect it seems to be pushing towards a totalitarian outcome. An absolute take over so Jesus can be released. These things never end well. When one governing body has absolute control there has never been a good outcome.

Lance P. Wallnau coined the term seven mountain mandate and is its most prominent teacher. Wallnau adapts the missionary mandate of Jesus to His disciples to “go and make disciples” of all the nations into a mandate to effect social transformation. He reasons that, since churches already have a presence in every nation in the world, we need to now concentrate on influencing the systems within these nations. The problem, according to Wallnau, is that Christians are not currently influencing society outside the church. Christians have left the mountains susceptible to the “gates of hell,” which are spiritual portals over the “kings” (influence-shapers) of those mountains.

Yes he said spiritual portals. Wallnau’s teaching is loosely based on the Abrahamic Covenant, which promised Abraham a seed and a lasting inheritance. Also, Israel was promised in Deuteronomy 28:12–14 to be the “head and not the tail” among the nations. Proponents of the seven mountain mandate infer that the church, not Israel, is the entity to claim that promise. It is now up to believers to move in proximity to the “gates of hell” and position themselves to exert the greatest amount of influence. The church then needs to be dissected into “micro components” and infiltrate the mountains. Since every Christian can’t position himself at the top of every mountain, each individual is to find his particular smaller peak and be a leader in that realm.

This puts a huge strain on humans. It twists scripture to make the church the one to claim that promise and makes it up to believers to do so. This is so legalistic and works based it’s sad and scary to see. It makes absolute sense when you see just how much they strive to do. It’s no wonder so many people give up on God after being in these movements. It puts a heavy burden on them. A yolk that they were never meant to carry.

The leading edge of the seven mountain mandate is the New Apostolic Reformation, which teaches that the church of the 21st century will be ruled by apostles and prophets. The movement is not governed by a specific denomination but by the alleged apostles and prophets who, of course, claim to receive direct revelation from God. In lending credence to modern-day prophets and apostles, the NAR denigrates the Bible and sola scriptura, emphasizes experience-oriented theology, and promotes mysticism.

To say ruled by apostles and prophets is no joke. They assert authority and establish a stance of unquestionable power. You cannot question or disagree without being told that they are men of God and to disagree or question is to disagree with or question God. There is no accountability amongst them when it comes to the things that come out of their mouth. They toss false prophecies to the side and say oops I must have misheard while at the same time holding firm in their ability to hear rightly. And insisting that people have to continue doing so or they will not be under the cover of spiritual blessing anymore. 

One thing that I have to mention is just like anything else definitions matter and a lot of these definitions would warrant a whole podcast to themselves. There are people who have and do speak to these definitions and the differences of historical understandings as opposed to what the NAR says. One person if you are interested in looking further into this would be to look at Holly Pivek. I have one interview with her and Douglas Geivett on remnant radio in the description of the podcast that just dropped on this topic. Justin Peters does some great work on the NAR as well as a woman named Dawn Hill. She has a podcast called The Lovesick Scribe. I recently did a discussion with her on the legalism of the NAR.

There are a lot of other people you can look at but when you hear these words like dominionism and the seven mountain mandate to name a couple there are various understandings of what they mean. One person can mean something completely different than another but through research and reading and watching NAR teachers you can start to form their definitions and see who means what when they say it by the ways they use them.

I just wanted to say that so you know that just as a charismatic is not a hyper charismatic and a calvanist is not a hyper calvanist there can be the same words used and while one is biblical the other use is far from it.

The NAR and proponents of the seven mountain mandate have abandoned biblical teaching on the end times, choosing to believe that Christians must set the stage for Jesus’ second coming by achieving dominion over the world’s systems. According to 7-M theology, Jesus will only return to a world that mirrors the kingdom of God. They talk so much about on earth as it is in heaven for this very reason. They believe that we are to make earth like heaven and that anything on earth that doesn’t line up is to be extinguished. That goes with sickness, death and the demonic. Somehow they overlook things like marriage. They speak of God not being able to give what he does not have. God doesn’t have cancer so he can’t give it. He doesn’t have poverty so he can’t give it. This idea parallels the New Age teaching that anticipates a cosmic spiritual shift when man becomes a co-redeemer of Planet Earth.

In teaching that you need to be under the covering and authority of an apostles and prophets. They teach that if you aren’t under that covering you don’t have the benefit of the blessings that trickle down from them. One of which is protection from spirits. They say if you aren’t properly aligned with them you are outside of God’s will. This also goes with people who come out of the NAR. They are told that they will be outside of God’s will and protection if they question them and/or leave. Sounds like something a narcissist would do in an abusive relationship. If you ask me.

I have heard quite a few testimonies of people who confronted false apostles about their false teachings and said they were going to leave the church to which they were told that if they left the church that God would cause bad things to happen. They would get sick or poverty stricken. You would think that somehow they would see the contradiction of “God can’t give sickness cause he doesn’t have it” and “God will make you sick if you leave.” Unfortunately so many are manipulators.

They teach that we need enough faith to be healed and to get the things that we want. We need to speak it into existence. That our words have power to speak things into existence and that we should visualize what we want. Ask God with no doubt that we will get it.

These are new thought ideas. Word of faith and prosperity Mumbo jumbo. This is a mantra of sorts. The new age uses these same methods. It is a constant push for what you have to do in order to get and at the same time if you don’t get it it is your own fault. It’s like the NAR has taken the new age, new thought, prosperity, and the occult and mashed them all together to form a strange mash that calls itself Christian yet rejects so many core tenants.

There is a push for decreeing what you want and declaring you will get it. When you say to them “we are to ASK not name it and claim” it they say “that is a faithless prayer.” This is how Jesus himself showed us to pray though. To say “thy will be done” is to sit in subjection to God. To know your place and to speak it. It is honoring and reverence for the Creator of everything. Our savior. We don’t provide for ourselves he provides for us. The Bible says not to worry about the things we need because God knows and he will provide what we need for us. We are not to worry and be concerned with these things.

Christians are called to be lights in the world (Matthew 5:14). There is no biblical requirement, however, to take the helm of all the world systems in order to usher in Christ’s kingdom.

The Bible says that the world will grow worse, not better, in the last days.

The theology associated with the seven mountain mandate is dangerous, and it sheds a terribly negative light on Christians everywhere. It puts a tremendous burden on believers to perform, make progress in their relative spheres of influence, and set the stage for Jesus’ return to earth—all without a definite end point. Little emphasis is placed on the gospel message of salvation by grace through faith in Jesus Christ; the movement is more about staking claims and taking control. The seven mountain mandate is a movement led by false prophets, and it should be avoided and exposed whenever Bible-believing Christians encounter it.

When we look at their “evangelism” we seldom hear about sin, repentance, or faith in Jesus. Faith is made into a power source or a thing. I have heard them say that faith is the substance God made everything out of.

The more you hear about their “evangelism” the more you hear about words of knowledge and affirmations, healings and prophesy. They tell witches that God loves them just the way they are. They use occult tools to go to their festivals and say they brought people into an encounter with Christ yet refuse to use his name when evangelizing so often. There is generally no mention of sin, or repentance, no conviction, no cross, no Jesus mentioned. How is anyone getting helped by this?

This among other things is what undergirds and compels the NAR. We should be a light and salt to the world around us, that is absolutely biblical. We should spread the gospel and though when they say make disciples unfortunately they don’t mean people who follow and obey Christ and scripture. They mean people who push signs and wonders and anointings. Do you hear how “you” based this is?

They say Jesus is perfect theology but when they say that they aren’t saying follow his word they are saying do the miraculous stuff he did. You have to do… so that Jesus can…. Jesus doesn’t need us to accomplish his will. We don’t have to allow him to accomplish his will. God will get his way no matter what. Satan fell because he wanted power and equality with God. The first lies in the garden were “did God really say” and “you can be just like him.” And unfortunately you can see both of these being played out in the teachings and the lives of the people in the NAR

One thing that I have heard taught is that Jesus did all of his miracles as a man in right standing with God and NOT as God himself, THEREFORE you can do all the things that Jesus did. The same people have said “oh, well he was fully God, he just did everything as a man, because if he did the miracles as God we wouldn’t have any responsibility in doing them, but if he did them as a man then we are responsible for walking in that anointing.” But isn’t that speaking out of both sides of your mouth? It’s not messy language, it is a wrong understanding and a dangerous teaching. There are preconceived ideas that are being blown to the point of being called gospel. They say that the gospel includes signs and wonders but I’m not sure which gospel they are reading.

Jesus is God and he had the full deity of God dwelling in him. He was at no point less God. 

Essec w Kenyon has a quote that says : “ the believer is just as much an incarnation as was Jesus of Nazareth. Kenneth Hagen also is quoted as saying this. Benny Hinn teaches that we are gods. He says he “is a little messiah walking on earth. Paula white teaches we are little gods. Kris Valloton says only God can heal the sick and we are told to be imitators of God, we are sons of God and like the psalmist says we are little g gods.

There is very little difference between NAR, word of faith/ name it and claim it/ prosperity teachings and amongst the foundational teachers. They all look up to, emulate and learn from the same false teachers. I really could go on and on.

Paul crouch said and I quote “I am a little God! Critics be gone”. Kenneth Copland said “we are a class of Gods! You don’t have a god in you, you are one. He also said when I see in the Bible where Jesus says “I AM” I say I AM too. Kenneth Copland says that he can control the weather and last year he “blew covid 19 away” These are people who are looked at as great among NAR teachers. They are quoted and held in a really high regard. As some of the people that should be imitated, the ones you should learn from. This isn’t a joke. This is being taught and believed and retaught. No wonder people are falling away from the faith.

The list of people tied to this gets bigger and wider as you go. It is insane how far and wide these teachings are reaching. How many bands are spouting this kind of teaching and so many that probably have no clue what they are even caught up in. 

Satan’s thumbprint is all over the NAR and their theology. They lower God and bring themselves up. Whether they are purposefully doing that or not they are making their own god. Their own Jesus. Their own gospel. They are mishandling and misusing scripture while at the same time undermining it and placing their own experiences above it. 

Another thing I wanted to define is legalism just so we are on the same page. Legalism is defined as excessive adherence to law or formula. In theology it is dependence on moral law rather than on personal religious faith. 

When we talk about legalism we are not talking about following God’s law because we are saved by his grace through faith and want to do what is pleasing in his eyes as a result. We are talking about depending on it for salvation or thinking we are going to earn something by it. It’s the idea that in order to be Christian we must do A, B and C. I think this is something that so many people are taught wrongly. When we add anything to the criteria for salvation we are adding law. Love is law when added as something we need to do on top of what Jesus already did. Signs and wonders are law when added to what we have to do. The law guides us to Jesus showing us our need for a savior and lack of the ability to save ourselves. We are told to hold fast to scripture and to do as God commanded, when we are saved we are given a heart that wants to please the Lord therefore we do the things he says are pleasing to him.

Unfortunately this group takes man made traditions and extends it over the word of God. Our view of what is commanded is written in scripture so for you to adhere to what God says because you love him and want to do what is good and right and true is called being a christian who is trying to be more like the one who saved you. We know it isn’t done for saving, but we do it because we know this is what pleases the LORD.

“but whoever keeps His word, in him the love of God has truly been perfected. By this we know that we are in Him: the one who says he abides in Him ought himself to walk in the same manner as He walked.” ‭‭. 1 John‬ ‭2:5-6‬

If we want to look like Jesus then we need to understand his word better. I think people forget that the same God who brought the Israelites out of Egypt is the same God who came to earth and died for us. The same God who inspired the entire bible. We ought to care what it says and weigh life by it. Adapt ourselves to it, learn from it and grow and be shaped by it. Instead of picking and choosing what we want to agree with or not.

“But you, beloved, ought to remember the words that were spoken beforehand by the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ, that they were saying to you, “In the last time there will be mockers, following after their own ungodly lusts.” These are the ones who cause divisions, worldly-minded, devoid of the Spirit. But you, beloved, building yourselves up on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Spirit, keep yourselves in the love of God, waiting anxiously for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ to eternal life. And have mercy on some, who are doubting; save others, snatching them out of the fire; and on some have mercy with fear, hating even the garment polluted by the flesh.” ‭‭Jude‬ ‭1:17-23‬ ‭

The people who change and twist scripture, bring in new revelations and new doctrines are causing divisions, they are concerned with emotions, feelings, and experiences over the very word of God. 

I started thinking about the concept of The NAR being legalistic as I learned about other religions. I really enjoy apologetics so I learn to understand other people’s beliefs better. I started learning the common thread that runs through them. The two lies that tend to undergird all of Satan’s handy work. Did God really say? And you can be just like God.

It’s so sad watching what the drive is for. It seems like it is a constant reaching for the carrot dangling in front of you that you are never able to get. It’s striving after the wind. 

The visions, and prophesy, and gold dust and glory clouds. The healings and deliverances that you have to work for and never seem to fully heal from. They cry out for more in songs and prayers and teachings. It’s like they are never content. Never filled. Never free. Never happy with how much God has already said and done.

They say if you don’t hear God it’s your fault, everyone should hear God speak to them and if you can’t hear him speak They say you need to change your frequency to hear him better. They say at some point in your maturing as a christian you ought to come to a place where you want your own revelations just for you. You get tired of hand-me down revelations.

If you don’t have visions and visitations it’s because you haven’t done the things to get them and they all have different incantations, different mantras, different rituals for you to get your healing and activate your gift or anointing. You need to give more money to the right places. You need to empty your mind and get quiet to listen for God. You need to be less prideful, let go of your control so God can work in you and through you. You should be striving after fresh anointings. You should be going to graves to soak up the anointing of those who have come before you and taking this class or that class to learn how to astral project to heaven and back. Some say they can control the weather and tell stories about it acting like this is perfectly normal for Christian’s. New thought and new age believe so many of these things. You have to grab your healing and cast off the spirit of religion that causes you to put scripture over experience.

“But evil men and impostors will proceed from bad to worse, deceiving and being deceived. You, however, continue in the things you have learned and become convinced of, knowing from whom you have learned them, and that from childhood you have known the sacred writings which are able to give you the wisdom that leads to salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness; so that the man of God may be adequate, equipped for every good work.” 2 Timothy 3:13-17

We can see that it says evil men and impostors will proceed from bad to worse, deceiving and being deceived. But we are to continue in scripture. The scripture tells us everything we need. We don’t need new revelations and visions. 

I am going to stop here for my first part. Please come back and check out the second part. It is really a lot to discuss and I wanted to do a thorough job. Though you can spend hours unpacking what is taught in this movement.

I pray this has been helpful. Until next time dig into your Bible and search it and that you remember that Gods word is more valuable than any experience.

Love you!



By Take me to Eternity

I am a God fearing mother of two. A wife to a wonderful husband. A crafter of junk. A baker. And anything the LORD puts in my path.

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